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- Info-Hams Digest Wed, 30 Mar 94 Volume 94 : Issue 348
-
- Today's Topics:
- ARRL Letter 24 March 1994
- But Seriously (was Re: New Award Announcement
- CALLBOOK ON INTERNET
- HELP! The FCC will not issue me a ham license (2 msgs)
- Obscenity on ham bands
- QRZ Question...
- silent 700 pinouts?
- STOP SENDING HAMS ON USENET CRAP !!!
-
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- Date: Tue, 29 Mar 1994 22:16:36 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!dog.ee.lbl.gov!overload.lbl.gov!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!library.ucla.edu!csulb.edu!csus.edu!netcom.com!marcbg@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: ARRL Letter 24 March 1994
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- The ARRL Letter Vol. 13, No. 6 March 24, 1994
- FCC surveys telephone interference, says manufacturers could do better
- The FCC has released the results of a telephone interference survey
- and concluded that since some telephones are "bulletproof," all of them
- could be.
- Thirty-five FCC field offices each picked three random cases of
- telephone interference on record and then visited the scene. The
- transmitting stations included 47 citizens band, 27 amateur, 23 AM
- broadcast, 10 FM broadcast, and one international broadcast station (none
- were specifically identified).
- At the location experiencing interference, the FCC's Field
- Operations Bureau personnel first tested the telephones on site, then
- tested their own "bulletproof" telephones, as well as several
- commercially available filters. Altogether, 241 different telephones were
- tested.
- Among the FCC's conclusions was that transmitter power did not seem
- to be a significant factor; they said that 10 watts or less caused
- telephone interference in one-third of the cases.
- The FCC also said that filters worked only one-third of the time.
- "Manufacturers can design telephones to be interference free," the
- Commission said, citing its bulletproof telephones, which were immune
- from interference "virtually all of the time."
- The FCC said that it hopes the survey will encourage affected
- parties "to productively address and resolve this problem."
- The FCC said it receives 25,000 complaints per year from people who
- are "unable to use their telephones" because nearby radio stations
- interfere with them. "Whenever the radio stations are on the air, the
- telephones pick up their transmissions, which then override any ongoing
- telephone conversation," the FCC said.
- The survey's goals
- The survey's goals were to pinpoint the following:
- * What telephones are affected,
- * What type transmitting stations are involved (including power levels),
- * Whether commonly available filters are effective in eliminating
- interference,
- * Whether specially designed telephones are effective in eliminating
- interference.
- The report emphasized that because the survey was based on what the
- FCC called a random sample, "it cannot be claimed that identical results
- would be derived under scientific surveying and testing, nor should the
- results be construed as FCC endorsement or criticism of any particular
- manufacturer's product."
- At the transmitting station, FOB staff logged the type of station
- (ie, amateur, citizens band, broadcast, etc.), measured its power, and
- got information on antenna height, antenna gain, and distance from the
- complainant.
- At the complainant's location, the FOB disconnected all telephones,
- then plugged them, one at a time, into a single jack, while the station
- was transmitting.
- Also tested were the effectiveness of several commercially available
- telephone filters.
- Finally, the FOB connected "bulletproof" telephones to the telephone
- jacks and listened for interference.
- The power levels of the transmitting stations varied from 2 watts to
- half a million watts, one-third of them running less than 10 watts.
- Of the 241 telephones tested, 68% received interference. The rest
- did not.
- In tests of the AT&T Z100B1 filter on 138 telephones receiving
- interference, 62% of the telephones continued to receive interference. A
- number of other filters were tested, on 82 telephones receiving
- interference. As a group, these filters eliminated interference on 29% of
- the telephones, the FCC said.
- The FCC tested its "bulletproof" telephones at 52 locations and
- found them 96% effective.
- Conclusions
- The FCC said the transmitting stations most likely to cause
- telephone interference are citizens band, amateur, and broadcast
- stations. Citizens band stations accounted for half the telephone
- interference cases, while amateur and broadcast stations caused the other
- half.
- The power levels used by the transmitting stations did not appear to
- be a significant factor in causing telephone interference, the FCC
- concluded, based on power levels of 10 watts or less causing a third of
- the interference.
- "Although some telephones did not receive interference, the limited
- nature of [this survey] would not support the conclusion that [those
- particular models] would always reject interference," the FCC said.
- On the other hand, models that were observed to be susceptible to
- interference by the FCC can be presumed to be susceptible in other
- installations.
- The FCC said that telephone interference filters "cannot be relied
- upon to eliminate telephone interference," since, in two out of three
- cases in this survey, they didn't work.
- "Manufacturers can design telephones to be interference free," the
- FCC said. "'Bulletproof' telephones were immune from interference
- virtually all of the time.
- "Notwithstanding the 25,000 reports of telephone interference the
- FCC has received to date," the FCC said, "it is FOB's experience that, as
- large as this number is, it probably represents only a fraction of the
- actual instances in which this interference occurs.
- "Given the enormous numbers of instances in which this type of
- interference is experienced by consumers, it is our hope that this
- survey, notwithstanding its informality, will serve as a catalyst for
- affected parties to productively address and resolve this problem. As
- always, FOB remains ready to assist in that effort."
- If you would like a copy of the survey, which includes a list
- of telephone models checked, send an SASE with two units of first class
- postage to the Technical Information Service at ARRL HQ.
- HamVention names award winners
- For the fourth time in the past five years, an ARRL dignitary has
- been named the Dayton HamVention Amateur of the Year.
- Chosen this year was Perry Williams, W1UED, who retires at the end
- of April as ARRL Washington Area Coordinator, after 40 years of League
- service.
- Perry joined the Headquarters staff in 1954, and in 1975 took the
- reins of a new department, Membership Services. In 1980 he became
- Washington Area Coordinator.
- Perry is featured in a story about the League's Washington office in
- April QST.
- Receiving the Technical Achievement Award is Dick Newell, AK1A, of
- Bolton, Massachusetts, the inventor of PacketCluster. Newell, 43, began
- experimenting with what he called a "packet conference board system" in
- 1986, and sold his first PacketCluster software in 1988.
- Today, more than 600 PacketClusters are operating, in 34 countries.
- Version 6 is in the works for a planned introduction at the HamVention.
- In December 1990 Newell left his job to devote full time to
- PacketCluster, for 18 months working on the Amateur Radio version. Today,
- he is a part of Harvard Radio, and a commercial version, called
- PacketCluster Systems, is being marketed to public safety agencies.
- "In the beginning," Newell said, "I thought if I could sell five
- PacketClusters, I could buy that Alpha amplifier I'd always wanted. Now
- it's estimated that 40,000 to 45,000 amateurs regularly use a PacketCluster.
- "This has certainly kept me off the streets the past eight years,"
- Newell said.
- A QST story about Dick Newell appeared in August 1990 QST, page 54.
- The DARA Special Achievement Award goes to Russ Kroeker, N7HGE, of
- Kent, Washington, whom the DARA credits with "conceiving, planning,
- implementing, and operating" the Evergreen Intertie, a system of
- interlinked repeaters stretching from Oregon to British Columbia and east
- over the Rocky Mountains.
- Kroeker, 53, has been with the Boeing Co. for 20 years and currently
- is a manager for electronic product development. He was first licensed in
- 1986, when the Evergreen Intertie was born. "It was the brainchild of
- Richard Fryer, VE7OG," Kroeker says, "beginning with a single link
- between two repeater systems across the border."
- Kroeker at the time was chairman of the repeater committee of the
- Boeing Employees Amateur Radio Society (BEARS), and became involved in
- designing a link controller to expand and improve the system. "Boeing has
- supported the project over the years," Kroeker said.
- Before joining Boeing, Kroeker worked in Malawi (then called
- Nyasaland), designing VHF links between broadcast stations and building
- radio studios. He was first there while a student at Rutgers University,
- in 1962, as part of Operation Crossroads Africa.
- Kroeker's current involvement in the mature Evergreen Intertie is as
- a consultant, "helping out when there are political or technical problems
- such as siting of repeaters."
- A description of the Evergreen Intertie was in June 1991 QST, page 83.
- Previous Dayton Hams of the Year include former ARRL President Harry
- Dannals, W2HD (1993); International Amateur Radio Union President and
- former ARRL General Manager Dick Baldwin, W1RU (1992); and ARRL Hudson
- Division Director Steve Mendelsohn, WA2DHF (1990).
- The awards will be presented at the Dayton HamVention, April 29 to
- May 1, 1994.
- FCC's PRIVATE RADIO CHIEF NAMED TO PCS TASK FORCE
- FCC Private Radio Bureau Chief Ralph Haller has been named to head a
- Commission task force on personal communication services (PCS).
- The Commission said that the task force would provide "a focal point
- for all of the PCS issues currently before" it. The task force would
- work with all of the FCC's bureaus and offices that are involved in PCS
- issues, and would be responsible "for assuring consistency between
- policies and rules for narrow-band and wide-band PCS."
- FCC Chairman Reed Hundt said that "I am confident that under the
- leadership of Ralph Haller, the PCS task force will lead the Commission
- in the timely development of a comprehensive regulatory framework for PCS."
- Other members of the task force include Tom Stanley, Chief Engineer;
- Robert Pepper, Chief, Office of Plans and Policy; Donald Gips, Deputy
- Chief, Office of Plans and Policy; and Michael Katz, Chief Economist.
- ARRL VOLUNTEERS HELP HEAD OFF NY PLATE FEES
- New York state amateurs will soon be able to obtain distinctive call
- sign plates, according to ARRL Public Information Coordinator Stephan
- Anderman, WA3RKB. The original bill in the New York State Assembly was
- flawed, in that it would have included a $15 annual surcharge. When ARRL
- Government Liaison Phil Bradway, KB2HQ, learned of the problem with the
- bill, he contacted the Tryon Amateur Radio Club, of Gloversville, who had
- been behind the design of the new plates.
- The NY Department of Motor Vehicles was alerted to the problem and
- the bill was withdrawn, removing the threat of increased cost to
- amateurs. The new plates will carry the same $5 annual surcharge as the
- old; an initial fee of $18.00 will pay for the plate, Anderman said.
- BRIEFS
- * The ARRL has begun mailing FCC amateur license expiration notices
- to its members. The notices, including an envelope addressed to the FCC's
- processing facility in Gettysburg, Pennsylvania, are sent 90 days before
- the license expiration date and are generated from the FCC database.
- Addresses are cross-checked with the ARRL membership database and the QST
- mailing address is used if it is different from the address in the FCC
- database.
- * Closing date for nominations for the Westlink Report Young Ham of
- the Year award is April 30, 1994. Amateurs aged 18 or younger are
- eligible, with emphasis on those with unusual qualifications such as
- participation in emergency communication operations, assisting with
- licensing classes, and so on, according to Bill Pasternak, WA6ITF.
- The award is underwritten by Yaesu USA. The winner will be notified
- in early May and will receive a trip to the Sea Pac convention in
- Seaside, Oregon, on June 4 and 5, to receive the award. Official
- applications for nomination are available from Westlink, 28197 Robin
- Avenue, Saugus, California 91350.
- * Here are the FCC's amateur licensing figures as of the end of 1993:
- Extra 65,277
- Advanced 112,637
- General 126,898
- Technician 227,681
- Novice 99,105
- Total 631,598
- The ranks of Extras grew by 6.5% during the year, Advanced by 2.5%,
- General by 1.4%, Technician by 18.5%, and Novice licensees were
- essentially unchanged.
- * Congratulations to ARRL HQ administrative assistant Lisa DeLude
- (and husband Peter) on the birth of their first child, Nicole Emily, who
- arrived March 11.
- * Amateur Radio bulletin services will be the topic of a gathering
- at this year's Dayton HamVention. The session, called "Ham news and ham
- views from around the world," is scheduled to include Bill Pasternak,
- WA6ITF, of Newsline; Hap Holly, KC9RP, of the Radio Amateur Information
- Network (RAIN); former Radio Society of Great Britain president Peter
- Chadwick, G3RZP; radio host Len Winkler, KB7LPW; George Bowen, N2LQS, of
- the satellite-delivered show "This Week in Amateur Radio," and others.
- The forum will run from 2:45 PM to 5 PM on Saturday, April 30, in
- HamVention Meeting Room 2. For more information, contact Pasternak at
- 708-635-6351 or RAIN at 805-296-7180.
- * "Shortwave listening is the ultimate form of QRP," the saying
- goes. ARRL Assistant Technical Editor Jim Kearman, KR1S, attended the
- Seventh Annual SWL Winterfest near Philadelphia on March 11 and 12 and
- found a number of licensed amateurs among the 200 or so listeners there.
- Those speaking at forums included Shel Dunham, W4OEL; Skip Arey, WB2GHA;
- Joe Buch, N2JB; Etgon Byington, N2KXT; Harold Hausenfluck, WB4JSP; and
- Alan Johnson, N4LUS.
- Information on next year's Winterfest is available from Kris Field,
- 705 Gregory Drive, Horsham PA
- --
- ========================================================
- Marc B. Grant Voice Mail: 214-246-1150
- marcbg@netcom.com Amateur Radio N5MEI
- marcbg@esy.com Computer & Information Security
- =======================================================
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 30 Mar 94 22:39:11 GMT
- From: dog.ee.lbl.gov!agate!msuinfo!cravitma@ucbvax.berkeley.edu
- Subject: But Seriously (was Re: New Award Announcement
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- On Wed, 30 Mar 1994 16:18:46 GMT, strange alien beings caused Ed Hare (KA1CV) (ehare@arrl.org) to write:
- > : 1) RCC Rag Chewers Club
-
- > Well, although I applaud the encouragement of real contacts with real
- > conversations, this just seems too easy on VHF simplex or through
- > a repeater. Keep it around, but we need something more challenging.
-
- What about the ARRL friendship award or something similar? Ed or
- someone can fill in the details which I don't recall off the top of my
- head, but I think it involved contacting 26 hams whose suffixes each
- started with a different letter and exchanging RST, QTH and "one other
- interesting piece of information." Something like that, anyway.
-
- > 73 from ARRL HQ, Ed
-
- 73,
- /Matthew
-
- --
- Matthew Cravit, N9VWG | All opinions expressed here are
- Michigan State University | my own. I don't speak for MSU
- E-Mail: cravitma@cps.msu.ed | and they don't speak for me.
- GO/CS -d+@ -p+ c++ !l u+(++) e+(*) s/+ n+(---) h+ f+ !g w+(+++) t++@ r(+) y?
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 29 Mar 1994 23:23:48 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!dog.ee.lbl.gov!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!usc!nic-nac.CSU.net!news.Cerritos.edu!news.Arizona.EDU!nelson.as.arizona.edu!hlester@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: CALLBOOK ON INTERNET
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- In article <CnErML.41F@eskimo.com> wrt@eskimo.com (Bill Turner) writes:
- >
- >I know of one: telnet to callsign.cs.buffalo.edu 2000 and do the usual
- >readmes, etc. This is FCC data only, so no furriner info available. If
- >anyone knows of others, I'd like to know about 'em too.
-
- telnet pc.usl.edu 2000 has more recent updates than does cs.buffalo.edu 2000.
-
- Howard
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Tue, 29 Mar 1994 23:26:29 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!dog.ee.lbl.gov!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!library.ucla.edu!csulb.edu!csus.edu!netcom.com!tgm@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: HELP! The FCC will not issue me a ham license
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- John W. Holman (jwh7k@galen.med.Virginia.EDU) wrote:
- : It will be 90 days on April 6th since the FCC has had my application. This
- : is my first ham license, I have _not_ had a ham license canceled by the FCC.
- : Does anyone have any ideas what I can do to resolve this problem and
- : finally get a license?
- :
-
- If the ARRL can't help you, call your local congressman. It is
- an election year, seven months to go till election day. Your
- congressman will help ...
-
- Thomas
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 30 Mar 1994 00:48:08 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!dog.ee.lbl.gov!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!emory!news-feed-2.peachnet.edu!concert!lester.appstate.edu!usenet@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: HELP! The FCC will not issue me a ham license
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- In <tgmCnG945.69o@netcom.com> tgm@netcom.com writes:
-
- > John W. Holman (jwh7k@galen.med.Virginia.EDU) wrote:
- > : It will be 90 days on April 6th since the FCC has had my application. This
- > : is my first ham license, I have _not_ had a ham license canceled by the FCC.
- > : Does anyone have any ideas what I can do to resolve this problem and
- > : finally get a license?
- > :
- >
- > If the ARRL can't help you, call your local congressman. It is
- > an election year, seven months to go till election day. Your
- > congressman will help ...
-
-
- Chill out guys and gals.....it may not be a perfect world but the people
- in our club who tested around December 27 got their licenses about ten
- days ago.
-
- I know it frustrating to wait but everyone seems to have to do it. Some
- time back there were postings in this group or rec.radio.amateur.misc
- that the FCC in Gettysburg only issues ham licenses one day per week and
- that there are delays at the VEC and at the FCC.
-
- Marv Hoffman, KD4EGV
- Boone, NC
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 29 Mar 1994 23:30:57 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!dog.ee.lbl.gov!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!usc!sdd.hp.com!col.hp.com!fc.hp.com!news.lvld.hp.com!scott@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Obscenity on ham bands
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Dan Hughes (dhughes@prairienet.org) wrote:
-
- : I just passed my no-code test last week, and have been listening to some
- : ham chatter on my SW receiver. Saturday night on 3910 kHz I heard some
- : of the most disgusting language I've encountered anywhere. One guy was
- : spouting one obscentity after another, and three other guys were laughing
- : at his inept signal and giving it right back to him. All but the
- : instigator were regularly giving their calls. Is this pretty much what I
- : have to look forward to?
- : --
-
- You're going to get a lot of advice on this one, ranging from "go down
- to the CW subband, everyone's great there" to "bag HF and move up in
- frequency" to "it's not too bad, don't worry about it."
-
- I guess I'd have to fall pretty much into the third camp. I'd hate to
- see good operators abandon HF phone due to a few idiots. Yup, there's a
- bit of obnoxious behaviour out there. Evenings on 75 meters (especially
- in the General phone band) can be... umm interesting. But for the most
- part, these folks need not spoil your enjoyment of the hobby. They're
- there, just as they're everywhere in society. Don't assign them more
- importance than they should have. Move off a bit and enjoy contacts
- with some of the fine folks who still inhabit the bands.
-
- I'm fairly new at all of this too, and I don't like some of the
- behaviour I hear either, but I refuse to let it spoil my enjoyment.
- I've worked 49 states and quite a bit of DX on 75 phone this winter, and
- rarely has anyone managed to spoil my fun. I've enjoyed virtually every
- bit of it. Welcome to the hobby, and hang in there. There're a lot of
- really good folks to talk to, even on 75 phone!
-
- (PS - Does anybody in Hawaii ever work 75 phone? I'd love to get my
- last state on the band, but I've never even heard a Hawaiin station, let
- alone been able to contact one!)
-
-
- Scott Turner N0VRF scott@hpisla.LVLD.HP.COM
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 30 Mar 94 20:04:07 GMT
- From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu
- Subject: QRZ Question...
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- I run a Maximus telephone BBS for our ham club, and we've installed a
- CD drive and the QRZ callsign CD. I attempted to use the QRZ.EXE search
- engine that is included w/ the CD w/o luck. What happens is this: When
- redirecting I/O to/from QRZ.EXE and the com port using the required
- syntax ie:
-
- UsrRemote F:\QRZ_<com1_>com1 Worthy "Callbook"
-
- The program starts fine, except for the following: None of the keys
- pressed for menu item selection is echoed, and you need to press
- carriage return twice to register the menu selection you typed. Other
- than these anomalies, the program works fine. To avoid confusing the
- user, we wrote a quickie callsign-only search engine to allow use of
- the callbook, but the users are clamoring for the complete search
- capability of the QRZ program. I contacted the author of QRZ but he
- could not duplicate the problem due to not having a Maximus
- installation to evaluate. He claims that QRZ.EXE works fine w/ most BBS
- "door" setups, so I suspect that the problem is with Maximus. Does
- anyone on the net have any experience with Maximus and QRZ????????
- Please email any ideas, replies, to me, as I'm only getting the
- newsgroup digest, and might miss any newsgroup posts.....
-
-
- Thanks in advance,
-
- Dave Frandin, WA6QNW
-
- dfrandin@horizons.com
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 29 Mar 1994 16:38:59 -0600
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!dog.ee.lbl.gov!overload.lbl.gov!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!news.umbc.edu!eff!news.kei.com!ddsw1!not-for-mail@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: silent 700 pinouts?
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- A friend of mine wants to use a silent 700 (model 745) to talk to a TNC. The
- serial port on this particular model is a DB15 and not a DB25 connector. Does
- anyone know what the pinout would be for this unit?
-
- TNX
- pete
-
- pcs@impchi.mcs.com
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 30 Mar 94 21:45:49 GMT
- From: dog.ee.lbl.gov!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!pacbell.com!unet!loren!larson@ucbvax.berkeley.edu
- Subject: STOP SENDING HAMS ON USENET CRAP !!!
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- In article <764973671snx@bsdihi.atr.bso.nl> dihi@bsdihi.atr.bso.nl (Dick Hissink) writes:
- >It happens again and again. Every couple of weeks six tremendous large
- >files with AMATEURS ON USENET. This times each part from the six even
- >three times. I think al the FCC's and PTT's like it, because it keeps
- >my modem so busy....
- >
- >ok, ok, I know it is a lot of work to keep this list updated and, ok it
- >is usefull to know who you can reach by usenet. But why not this alternative:
- >
- >AMATEURS ON USENET: Those interested can download the latest updated
- >version by ftp form server....
- >
- >This saves a lot of unnecessary downloadtimes, my phonebill and I must
- >say some irritation.
- >What do Y'all think of my idea??
-
- I think your idea will not work for the majority of readers who do not
- have FTP access.
-
- I *LIKE* having the stuff posted every now and then. It sort of helps
- keep out the stupid FAQ type questions.
-
- Why do you download it each time?
-
-
- Alan
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Tue, 29 Mar 1994 22:50:33 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!dog.ee.lbl.gov!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!usc!yeshua.marcam.com!news.kei.com!world!drt@network.ucsd.edu
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- References <2n7901$6n4@apple.com>, <CnECJu.2L0@news.Hawaii.Edu>, <1994Mar29.143925.20248@ke4zv.atl.ga.us>
- Subject : Re: 1x1 Callsigns?
-
- Gary Coffman (gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us) wrote:
- : In article <CnECJu.2L0@news.Hawaii.Edu> jherman@uhunix3.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu (Jeffrey Herman) writes:
- : >
- : >Kok: Know who first used `iff' in the literature? Hint: He used to be
- : >Chairman of the U.H. Math Dept. (didn't stay long, though...) and he
- : >is quite famous. [VERY big hint: his intials are P.H.]
-
- : PAUL HARVEY used to be chairman of the UH math department???
-
- And now you know ... the REST of the story!
-
- -drt
-
- (If I hadn't, someone else would've ... :-)
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 29 Mar 1994 23:32:18 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!dog.ee.lbl.gov!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!wupost!crcnis1.unl.edu!unlinfo.unl.edu!mcduffie@network.ucsd.edu
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- References <Cn8ttu.AHI@news.Hawaii.Edu>, <1994Mar26.180734.6273@ke4zv.atl.ga.us>, <bote.764956814@access1>
- Subject : Re: Plain old repeaters
-
- bote@access1.digex.net (John Boteler) writes:
-
- >gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) writes:
- >>Mr. Herman wrote:
- >>>Gary: I'll be disappointed if your repeater beeps.
-
- >>Sorry, you're disappointed. It does "roger beep" to signal user
- >>carrier drop and timer reset. We run near zero tail so remote base
- >>operators aren't locked out. We tried it without the beep, but users
- >>complained they couldn't get in the machine. They couldn't hear their
- >>kerchunk because their receivers weren't recovering fast enough. The
- >>beep gives them 300 ms to recover. Users with noiseless squelch radios
- >>never knew when the repeater dropped without the beep.
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- >I cannot believe what I am reading.
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- >Just when you had built up my respect for you, Gary,
- >you go a do something like this! :)
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- >Instead of giving them training-wheel beeps to tell when
- >the repeater has dropped, maybe they should actually
- >wait a second to see that the other guy has
- >finished transmitting.
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- Okay... I'll bite. Have we quit building full duplex remote bases now?
- The remote shouldn't care if there is a zero tail or a 20 second tail.
- What gives?
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- Gary (not THAT one, the OTHER one!)
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